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	<title>Comments on: 2012 Our Ending or Beginning?</title>
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		<title>By: YakHerder</title>
		<link>http://www.digitalvagabonding.com/california/2012-our-ending-or-beginning/comment-page-1/#comment-870</link>
		<dc:creator>YakHerder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank god we have (unnamed) &quot;2012 experts&quot; to tell us what the &quot;Mayan&#039;s&quot; may or may not have believed.  It&#039;s as if someone told you at midnight that the world would end (or that you&#039;d undergo a new-enlightened-consciousness) at noon because the clock is going to run out of numbers.  What makes me really furious about the wishful thinking (or, rather, &quot;believing&quot;) surrounding 2012 is this:  Maya communities are generally not interested in 2012 because they don&#039;t have access to basic human needs like food, shelter, and water.   In Guatemala, at least, they are still recovering from decades of torture and murder during a civil war that left whole families practically disintegrated.  Indigenous peoples face enough real-world problems every day without having to to listen to some cockamamie New Age magic bullshit invoked in their name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank god we have (unnamed) &#8220;2012 experts&#8221; to tell us what the &#8220;Mayan&#8217;s&#8221; may or may not have believed.  It&#8217;s as if someone told you at midnight that the world would end (or that you&#8217;d undergo a new-enlightened-consciousness) at noon because the clock is going to run out of numbers.  What makes me really furious about the wishful thinking (or, rather, &#8220;believing&#8221;) surrounding 2012 is this:  Maya communities are generally not interested in 2012 because they don&#8217;t have access to basic human needs like food, shelter, and water.   In Guatemala, at least, they are still recovering from decades of torture and murder during a civil war that left whole families practically disintegrated.  Indigenous peoples face enough real-world problems every day without having to to listen to some cockamamie New Age magic bullshit invoked in their name.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh Diamond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh Diamond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 06:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very nice view, Mr. Hennessey, of a subject that has drawn so much speculation and myth from all sorts of luminaries and not-so luminous luminaries.

We have the ability to drastically change the lifestyles in which we live, 12/21/12 notwithstanding; the power is within us, no matter what the nay-sayers might say. If not, the way of living in America and the other economically wealthy nations will be forced to come to a screeching halt by Mother Earth herself.

Oil and coal are not infinite! If civilization runs full power on a finite resource, then sharp change will occur whether we think it will or not unless a monumental shift occurs. Drastic population reduction and ever-increasing &#039;natural disasters&#039; will occur due to our consumptive, fossil-fuel burning ways- the heating of our planet in an historically abnormal matter the most visible indicator of what is happening and will continue to come over the next century + . 

The Earth will and is responding to our ecologically destructive ways. We will get back to a sustainable capacity for human existence, possibly without hundreds of millions/billions of homo sapiens. 

Live simply and adapt! May vegetation overgrow our buildings!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very nice view, Mr. Hennessey, of a subject that has drawn so much speculation and myth from all sorts of luminaries and not-so luminous luminaries.</p>
<p>We have the ability to drastically change the lifestyles in which we live, 12/21/12 notwithstanding; the power is within us, no matter what the nay-sayers might say. If not, the way of living in America and the other economically wealthy nations will be forced to come to a screeching halt by Mother Earth herself.</p>
<p>Oil and coal are not infinite! If civilization runs full power on a finite resource, then sharp change will occur whether we think it will or not unless a monumental shift occurs. Drastic population reduction and ever-increasing &#8216;natural disasters&#8217; will occur due to our consumptive, fossil-fuel burning ways- the heating of our planet in an historically abnormal matter the most visible indicator of what is happening and will continue to come over the next century + . </p>
<p>The Earth will and is responding to our ecologically destructive ways. We will get back to a sustainable capacity for human existence, possibly without hundreds of millions/billions of homo sapiens. </p>
<p>Live simply and adapt! May vegetation overgrow our buildings!</p>
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		<title>By: Pat the Digital Vagabond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pat the Digital Vagabond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the very thoughtful comments. I get the sense that many people are coming to realize that we are living on many fault lines and at the cross roads. The fork in the road that I see appears to be the low road of fear or the high road of love.

I look forward to hearing other opinions on 2012. Be well and Love Large, Pat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the very thoughtful comments. I get the sense that many people are coming to realize that we are living on many fault lines and at the cross roads. The fork in the road that I see appears to be the low road of fear or the high road of love.</p>
<p>I look forward to hearing other opinions on 2012. Be well and Love Large, Pat</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Halpern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Halpern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe 2012 represents the make or break year.  It is not the year that California slides into the ocean or a massive volcanic eruption covers the world in ash.  It is the year when the scale of survival on this planet really starts tipping.  On one side of the scale we have abundance and sustainability and on the other side is greed/scarcity and destruction of our life support systems.  Right now they are in balance, but capitalism has been adding weight to the greed/scarcity side since its formation.  2012 is the tipping point.  Which way will it go?  Yes, it is our CHOICE.  But we are up against very powerful forces that are choosing what they want.  I give my blessings and gratitude to all the warriors who are fighting, and LOVING, for a brighter future.

Now, about this movie . . . I am a bit tired of these cheesy Hollywood movie (think The Day After Tomorrow) that don&#039;t have any basis in reality.  Please, it is not going to happen this way.  I happen to agree with James Lovelock . . . IF the &quot;end&quot; comes, it will be slow and painful, and conclude with a small fraction of the population gathered in the north pole, eating each other to survive.  Until a hypercane wipes them out.  Hollywood should make THAT movie.  I already have the script written - contact me to get it produced.

Peace ya&#039;ll!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe 2012 represents the make or break year.  It is not the year that California slides into the ocean or a massive volcanic eruption covers the world in ash.  It is the year when the scale of survival on this planet really starts tipping.  On one side of the scale we have abundance and sustainability and on the other side is greed/scarcity and destruction of our life support systems.  Right now they are in balance, but capitalism has been adding weight to the greed/scarcity side since its formation.  2012 is the tipping point.  Which way will it go?  Yes, it is our CHOICE.  But we are up against very powerful forces that are choosing what they want.  I give my blessings and gratitude to all the warriors who are fighting, and LOVING, for a brighter future.</p>
<p>Now, about this movie . . . I am a bit tired of these cheesy Hollywood movie (think The Day After Tomorrow) that don&#8217;t have any basis in reality.  Please, it is not going to happen this way.  I happen to agree with James Lovelock . . . IF the &#8220;end&#8221; comes, it will be slow and painful, and conclude with a small fraction of the population gathered in the north pole, eating each other to survive.  Until a hypercane wipes them out.  Hollywood should make THAT movie.  I already have the script written &#8211; contact me to get it produced.</p>
<p>Peace ya&#8217;ll!</p>
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		<title>By: ted33308</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Pat....the choice is Ultimately OURS!

Everyday....we CHOOSE to get up out of bed.
Everyday....we CHOOSE to go to wark.
Everyday....we choose to skip or eat Breakfast.
Everyday....we CHOOSE to participate in Life or not.

December 21, 2012?  I CHOOSE to be an Optimist and I CHOOSE to becone a more Enlightened Human Being......the question is;  WILL YOU?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Pat&#8230;.the choice is Ultimately OURS!</p>
<p>Everyday&#8230;.we CHOOSE to get up out of bed.<br />
Everyday&#8230;.we CHOOSE to go to wark.<br />
Everyday&#8230;.we choose to skip or eat Breakfast.<br />
Everyday&#8230;.we CHOOSE to participate in Life or not.</p>
<p>December 21, 2012?  I CHOOSE to be an Optimist and I CHOOSE to becone a more Enlightened Human Being&#8230;&#8230;the question is;  WILL YOU?</p>
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